Yeah, I didn't originally intend to be so abrasive. You're right taglag, the delivery was off. I think I was just irritated when I got rid of 5, which didn't have a time limit, in favor of 6 which does. But that was my own fault. I know a lot of time and energy is put into this thing, so with more more careful thought I can understand why they'd charge money. The AI community does need things like this. Someone said Hal and AI is still in it's infant stage, and I'd agree. So, I'll do a little more digging and see what I find. Thanks guys.