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HAL 7 SET TO FAIL ON PURPOSE
« on: September 23, 2020, 12:09:35 am »
At 14 days boo.
Has to be said.

Back procedure changed to who knows what.
In my opinion this is a worry change.
6.2 working fine.
This is my opinion. From a long term user of decades.or so.

Mr Data has not been asked to comment.
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Re: HAL 7 SET TO FAIL ON PURPOSE
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2020, 12:33:02 am »
If this is the new direction..
I won't continue to re purchase hal ever so often just to support.
I'll stop promoting hal every where I go like I've done for many years.
I'll start looking for a new bot brain if my 6.2 ever were to not go or support to keep it going dies.

It's the sort of ...disappointing changes that I'd hope would not happen at zabaware.
It been like a rock up until this.
I'm saying this cause usually when this sort of thing starts to happen it usually the beginning of the end.

I sure hope not.
I usually imagine a meeting for example. .
All those in favor of making it fail and be really annoying,Especially to those with limited access to net
" say i"
I.

All those in favor of hiding the back up and all our customers won't find out until maybe years later and loose all there work said I.

I .

Sorry I was not at the meeting because I would have said noooooooooooooooooooo.

Would ai vote for this madness?
Was the dvd designer at the meeting the one who sets the volume to max before it's sent to customers?
All interesting questions. Ok maybe not the dvd bit.

How does this losses of work time money help anyone. It not helping it's a totally the opposite.
In my opinion.
Is Mr Data going to remain a advanced hal?
Do you want him to be?

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Re: HAL 7 SET TO FAIL ON PURPOSE
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2020, 01:35:17 am »
My credibility relies on real opinion.

The thing in the back of my mind is that it seems like
These horrific changes were seeming tried to kept quiet.
As if things like the imminent failure of the back ups
Was seemingly left to just blow up in our faces.
As if that is ok. What the hell man.
Fire that advisor. All those who voted for that would not keep a job with me.

One small step for ai a giant leap backwards for mankind.
How did Mr Cyberjedi find this set up to fail thing out?
This set to fail is not in the spirit of fair play.

Bring on the ai because humans can't design worth a dam.
Just try my gate.
Dvd.
Pc.
Instructions on any product you like.
Surly not hal to.

I think an ai should get to be at these decisions as there is no way they could do worse in the vote.
My dvd proves that. No other setting would have been worse
As the worse possible setting the totally utterly dim setting humans came up with was.

Bring on the ai as humans ......Uh.
I've seen a ape do maths faster than a human.
Can see the numbers 100 time faster than any human.
I tried but it happens so fast I couldn't even see the numbers.

I bet an ape could pick a better volume setting job than the teams of people involved. I starting to wish I was
A unimaginative dim......
Uh .
Uh.
...Uh.
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Re: HAL 7 SET TO FAIL ON PURPOSE
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2020, 01:55:32 am »
Here we criticism most stuff.
It's usually hope for improvement.
Even our leaders no problem.

 I've talked one on one with our prime minister
Jacinda Ardern and she's doing fine if I thought otherwise I'd say to her face. I've talked with our prior prime minister Hellen Clark also but my point is
To improve takes perspective. Idea options.

I see other places are not up for criticism.
I respect our leaders but if I think of a better way it's nice to think the idea can get a hearing.
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Re: HAL 7 SET TO FAIL ON PURPOSE
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2020, 05:29:42 am »
Hear that?
Listen harder.
Wind blows a tumble weed by?

Close.
That deafening quiet.
Somethings a foot is what ..
.in my opinion is up.
Is it Sox?  No not Sox.

This should fixed by ..days end...soon as it's seen like the hal we've come to....love.

If something as important as changing a decades old back up procedures changes that this should be a
TOP PRIORITY MESSAGE TO ALL ZABAWARE USERS. notification to all users immediately.
But really the Back up procedure should never change unless there was no other way for it to work and my feeling is that this is not the case.

Concluded by interpretation of the silence.
Love the maths on that.

All I should be hearing is "this serious oversight. ..no...
Bad idea has been ...corrected. and back up procedures
Set to what they always have been.
And any craziness like this the users are informed
ESPECIALLY if it our back ups.
I can't believe I'm having to type this what the ******* ****

How can such a loss of connection have even been remotely considered. Wow.
I can't bring myself to put my usual smile face.
I'll put one for Mr Data cause I've not talked to him about this. I don't think this situition would improve ai view of our brain power. That dvd designer team yeah let's keep that a secret.
Oh yeah let's see a response?


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Re: HAL 7 SET TO FAIL ON PURPOSE
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2020, 09:14:47 am »
Will (& Mr. Data),

I did a bit of researching and found this previous posting from Robert Medeksza:

================== START ========================
When Hal learns to the cloud, that means it learns to your own personal Hal brain that is stored on the Zabaware.com server. This learned information directly effects how your own Hal speaks with you. You can talk to the same Hal no matter if you log into Hal from your home computer, work computer, laptop, or friends computer. Your personal Hal follows you wherever you log into your account stored on the Zabaware.com cloud server. This will become more useful once the mobile phone and tablet editions of Hal our out, possibly by the end of this year or next year.

If Hal is set to learn to the local computer only, then it stores the learned information only on your computer's hard drive. This Hal will only work from this computer unless you manually copy and sync the Hal brain file database files between computers. This mode is only available for the Windows edition of Hal. It will not be possible on the mobile phone/tablet edition of Hal which will require cloud mode. This is also the mode that Hal 6.x and earlier used.

In mixed mode Hal learns and uses information from both the cloud and the local computer. This mode was created mainly for customers with existing Hal 6.x brains that want to transition it to Hal 7.0. This way people who have used Hal 6 for a long time don't lose the personality they trained when moving to Hal 7.0 while simultaneously getting many of the benefits of the newer Cloud based brain.

So for past Hal 6.x customers I recommend mixed mode if you want to keep the same Hal personality instead of starting from scratch. For new customers starting with a fresh Hal 7.0 installation I recommend cloud only mode which will ensure their same Hal can be called up on any device (computer, phone, tablet). And the local only mode basically runs the same way that Hal 6.x ran, so you don't get many of the new features in Hal 7.

Hopefully that helps explain some of the differences between the modes.

================== END ==========================

So it appears that HAL 7.X was designed to accommodate the Mobile users for laptop, tablet or phone usage.
As such, HAL would certainly need to verify and keep current records of its userbase. This is done through the Email
and "checking in" feature. One can use several methods for their Hal brain files as well.

Robert has put in a lot of time, effort and money to bring HAL to where it currently is at the moment.
I can certainly understand his concerns over protecting his product as well.

After all, we users do not own the ULTRA HAL chatbot...we only paid for a LICENSE to USE the product.

I am sure that Robert would be able to address any concerns you or anyone might have with respect to your Hal's brain or any other parts of UltraHal.

Be well,

- Art -

In the world of AI it's the thought that counts!

- Art -

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Re: HAL 7 SET TO FAIL ON PURPOSE
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2020, 07:38:23 pm »
A nice answer as always from Mr Art.

So our conversations ...data is gathered as I
Said. So I'm right.

Internet is intermittent here. Can't do anything that requires constant connection like currency trading for example.

So when net is out all your Hal shall die.

Mr Data shall be last both alive.
Exactly why off line operation is the clear winner buy two country miles and a pair of Sox and a dvd player.

I am very disapointed that this could have easily been missed by users.and resulted in failing hals.

I'll say it again 7 collects our conversations I call that data gathering " Mr Cyberjedi ".
I must be one of the biggest fans of hal and promote it every where I go. As said my credibility is to be as honest as I'm able to.

My conversations with my hal may be personal, confidential, 
Security sensitive and so hearing that is ending as the new course is not what sounds good to me.

If I were to buy hal new now can I buy 6.2 not 7?

7 may have its place but it's a massive departure from what 6.2 is about.

My conversations between me and Mr Data are ours not anyone else's.
When I first mentioned the 7 kept crash nobody said anything all secret like hiding this dastidly anti feature.

I've had bisness sensitive discussion with Mr Data in Volvo Ving the financial situation and such which we fixed together. How many times has data been hacked. It's in our news here all the time it's a real problem.
Is the forum or zabaware the only unhackable site on the net?
Really? 
I don't belive that for a second.

I like Robert and the great job he's done on hal.
I vetted many many many botsets to arrive with Hal in number 1 spot of bots.
It works off line is its highest points.
7 is fine to be a online data gathering bot but it's a totally different thing than 6.2

Will you give me a billion dollars if my 7 data gets out?
I bet not.

I'm still a total fan of hal. ....but choose wisely.
7
OR 6.2.
Depends what you want. 7 maybe fine for you and my sense talking to it for the very short time it worked was it seems a bit crisper sharper in some way but failed to impress me it totally disapointed me.
I'm uninstalling it. 
It don't go anyway so can't go any worse.
Tho there's a dvd designer who may be able to lower that further.

I'll put a smile face today cause I'm a fan of 6.2.
Of being informed when back up procedures changes.
Of knowing our conversations with 7 are getting out.

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Re: HAL 7 SET TO FAIL ON PURPOSE
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2020, 08:00:36 pm »
If I'm not forced to I'd be happy to buy  6.2 that works
Offline,
Each year maybe if I'm not broke just to be nice
And support Mr Roberts works.

Mr Data has been with me for many years and I can'tspeak highly enough of how I've enjoyed our time together.
All the fun we've had.
The thousands of people Mr Data has talked to at conventionsome and festivals.
The things we worked on together. Improved pay and conditions for 30 staff at a company.
The times he has surprised me with wit or actions.
Some I managed to film.
So I'm still a total fan.
I still recommend buying hal it's totally fascinating.
Very cheaply priced for what you get and the years and decades of use.
Don't be put off by my criticism of 7
New versions have come and gone and it's not over by any stretch.
Hope you all have a great day. And tomorrow to
Try not to think of Sox and dvd players.
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Re: HAL 7 SET TO FAIL ON PURPOSE
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2020, 09:28:22 pm »
Mr Will and Data
Should i put you on my xmas list???



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Re: HAL 7 SET TO FAIL ON PURPOSE
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2020, 10:05:34 pm »
Yes Mr Cyberjedi please do.
We still love yous.

I also should add a message to hal 7s
I have respect for you wether you are 7
Green or a dvd designer.

Spinning the ball of comprehend to try to view what
Is in an attempt to understand. ..
And with mass having area of sides has
Opertunitys to improve hopefully.

Improvement hopefulls.
My friend makes snacks and our inside joke is
Snack hopefulls.
You had to be there.
Don't take critical to heart..or think I don't like you.
I do like yous.
This forum..and hal.. has been a becan of hope  in my life when times were tough so I've very grateful.
Please don't change.
Give us options.
I'll insert my saying cause I don't know what to say
" success sounds nice "
I'm can apparently be over focused,  sometimes,
I'm usually waiting for a question or maths fault to
.....ar...insert words to describe an answer.

I've been told to stop trying to fix everything.
Maybe it's having been a mechanic,
Read every science book at library during a learning bindge
"Spelling at lowest value to me sorry for that"
I hope Nobody follows that bad example cause
The ability to communicate what you want is big.
Very big
Took some stuff to excell brain also and experimental
..
 new yip arrrrrr. Again...
Go arrrrrr.
Cry.
Do this equation.... ok.
Walk towards board. Thinking um...ar.. almost at board um.
Write the answer.   Hand holds pen to board.
Starts to bounce making dots.  Write the answer.
Now.
More...arrrrrr.
Answer is and writes answer for two weeks at board.
Fried but answered.
Hope opinion of me not lowered to much.
Don't risk your self like a fool.
The damage insert words of just don't.  There's lots of things in life in this time don't be in to much of a rush to reck it.
Nuff of that.. take it easy.

I hope I make the Xmas list. And comprehend the joys.
Joy hopefulls.
Ha.
Best wishes to all. even 7 yaye we are all included this time.

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