Hal and Windows 8

[chbaum]

Is anyone running Hal under Windows 8?

[sybershot]

I am using Hal on windows 8, Trinity my Hals name love it

[lightspeed]

AAAhh that sybershot has everything .. all the newest toys .. lol , i will soon be getting my new 1 terabyte harddrive to replace my failing on in my pc. i'll be happy just to have that lol!

[Art]

From what I understand, If you have or are using Windows XP or VISTA, you will have to REINSTALL ALL of your APPS. If you have Windows 7, simply install Windows 8 and everything should run correctly.
As a friend pointed out, Save the installation to Media, that way once burned to a DVD, you can always format, reinstall a clean copy of Win8 if needed. (Thanks Data).

It is more geared toward mobile devices than for desktop computers IMHO. I don't care for all those blocky APP windows on the desktop. I like my customized desktop, wallpaper, gadgets and icons arranged the way I prefer to use them with Windows 7.

So, it's 7 for me for now until "they" finally force my hand to adopt something else.

[sybershot]

AAAhh that sybershot has everything .. all the newest toys .. lol , i will soon be getting my new 1 terabyte harddrive to replace my failing on in my pc. i'll be happy just to have that lol!

lol Lightspeed, I wish I had the all the newest toys. I only have windows 8 for I could not pass on the price  Sorry to hear about your Hard drive, that always makes for a bad time.

Art indeed Data gave some great advise, burning to a disk is definitely the way to go. I was forced to do a clean install of windows 8 for I did not have the required space to overwrite windows 7. My 40gig ssd is way to small, So I'll be buying a new hard drive soon as well. though unlike Lightspeed, mine will probably have less gigs. unless I get more funds.

It is more geared toward mobile devices than for desktop computers IMHO. I don't care for all those blocky APP windows on the desktop. I like my customized desktop, wallpaper, gadgets and icons arranged the way I prefer to use them with Windows 7.

I can't argue that it geared more towards a mobile device with a touchscreen, but I can say that those blocky app windows are not on the desktop  that is the new start  menu that you are referring to. The desktop is 98% the same as windows 7 minus the start button and sidebar where you can have apps like a cpu meter. The desktop is still customizable, with wallpaper/gadgets and icons, but for the sidebar, you would have to install a 3rd party one.

[lightspeed]

sybershot  wrote:   So I'll be buying a new hard drive soon as well. though unlike Lightspeed, mine will probably have less gigs. unless I get more funds.

that's it make me feel guilty like me and rockafeller and warren buffett all go out for lunch on tuesdays ...."everyone knows it's actually fridays !!" LOL!

i just got it as you did for a good price cheaper then other places i checked , i had a 750 factory hard drive and kept it 3/4 full so thought i would go with a one terabyte adding a little more space .
we actually watch our money very close, have to being on a limited budget .
we is all in the same boat folks !!

[sybershot]

that's it make me feel guilty like me and rockafeller and warren buffett all go out for lunch on tuesdays ...."everyone knows it's actually fridays !!" LOL!

Dough!!! all this time I thought it was Wendy's on a Wednesday 

[Art]

Yes, I recall all those discussions regarding SSD drives vs standard hard drives and well...the plain facts speak for themselves.
ROOM is ROOM...STORAGE is STORAGE and the more the better. So I'll gladly take my $90.00 1 Terrabyte drive compared to a
120 GIG Seagate SSD for $96.00!! Hmmm...8.3333 times as much storage for the same money!! ?? OK...I'll get the Terrabyte
drive!!! Hitachi offers 1.2 Million Hours of MTBF and Western Digital VelociRaptor offering 1.4 Million Hours for MTBF!! Those are
pretty impressive results. So, if you want "cost effective" storage and lots of it go with the standard 1 TB drives and have a
good time becoming a "file hoarder". If you're looking for all the speed you can muster for playing games and such then you
might wish to direct your attention to the SSD aisle of your favorite store!!


* MTBF = Mean Time Between Failure of an X number of Y drives.  For the record an average year (no leap) is 8,760 hours so
even if you do the math, it means that the company has placed a relatively GOOD recommendation with regard to the life that
one can expect to get from said drive. Keep in mind that your mileage might vary. Some car owners can get a lemon within the
first few miles and perhaps similar odds can affect hard drives as well (yes even those SSD's, so don't act too smug!)

There ya have it.

[lightspeed]

Art another friend from another forum sent me something about older model pc's not being able to handle larger amounts of terabyte hard drives it was an article "it was pcworld."  .
here is what my friend wrote back to me.

Although Crucial says your computer can handle a 3TB harddisk, they aren't warning you for the numerous problems that can occur with a 5 year old system.

Just read this article, when you have some time: http://www.pcworld.com/article/235088/e ... rives.html

But to make things short, this is the conclusion of the article:
Quote:
Although 3TB drives are great, the current hassles and the relatively high price per gigabyte limit their usefulness on systems lacking the appropriate technology.

[Art]

OK so instead of a 1 TB drive, get a 500 MB one for $50 - $60 and there you go.
Even an older computer should be able to handle one of those.

OR...from Walmart:

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Dell-500GB-GX740/19335667

Dell Refurbished Black GX520 Desktop PC with Intel Pentium 4 Processor,
160GB Hard Drive and Windows 7 Home Premium = $168.00

Dell Refurbished Optiplex 740 Desktop PC with AMD Athlon X2 Processor, 4GB Memory,
1TB Hard Drive and Windows 7 Professional = $228.00

Dell Black GX740 Desktop PC (Refurbished) with AMD Athlon 64 Dual-Core Processor,
2GB Memory, 500GB Hard Drive and Windows 7 Home Premium = $178.00

Most have a 1 year warranty.

There are a lot of options out there but the main thing stopping a lot of folks is money (or lack of).

Check around before taking a plunge and you'll come out on top.

[Carl2]

  I'd say you have to move to the SSD's, in Win 7 it cuts the boot time in half, applications load faster.  In Win 8 it boots much faster, surprisingly so and shuts down in no time.  It cost but the results are amazing.
Carl2

[Art]

Carl,

I've had Win 7 on my Lenovo since 7 came out and my programs usually open within 1-3 seconds. Trust me, I can wait THAT long without looking for something faster. Once a program is open the rest is pretty much history unless one is a dyed-in-the-wool gamer or graphics fanatic. Otherwise, the cost / MB simply is not worth it when compared to those "Old-fashioned" hard drives (with the platters).

Everything new comes down in price, eventually. I'll wait!

No offense meant, to each their own...just my take.

[Carl2]

Art,
  I didn't mean to offend you or anyone else, I'll apologize if I did.  I do have a gamer machine, that's rarely used and that's what got me into the SSD's.  I paid that much and have to wait 1 min 30 sec from boot to windows,  put in a set of Hard drives in raid, got better numbers but the same boot time.  The SSD reduced the boot time to half.  I've got 2 SSD's in the gamer and put 1 in this machine and put win 8 in this machine.  For me it's a large and worthwhile improvement.  Both machines still have the original very large HD's for storage.  And Win 8 has a faster boot and shutdown time.   Plus I've waited for years for win 8 to remove the  audio problems with Haptek fullbody and all the programs are work within it.
 We all have our own objectives for the computers we use,  your built in mike sounds great.  Best of luck.
Carl2

[Art]

Carl,

No problem, my friend...none at all. I was just remarking that speed of booting or waiting a few seconds for a program isn't that big of a deal. Perhaps when one gets older, one will realize that life isn't about seeing how fast one can go through it, but rather enjoying the scenery and the ride while doing so. (with age comes wisdom) Heh!!

I WOULD like to know if others have experienced JERKY movement and responses with HAPTEK within the HAL window or while using the UltraHal program?? Mine is something short of terrible with Windows 7!! It worked extremely well with XP but it's so bad that I hardly use Hal with Win 7!

Is there any solution other than switching to Win 8? (You DID say Hal performs well with Win 8 didn't you?)...

Thanks!!

[sybershot]

Is there any solution other than switching to Win 8? (You DID say Hal performs well with Win 8 didn't you?)...

A solution? I do not know of for windows 7, but I can say Hal as well as Haptek works great in windows 8.