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Ultra Hal Assistant / Re: hal not talking
« Last post by lightspeed on Today at 12:40:00 pm »
sometimes I have found that blank responses was caused by something I did ( in plug ins scripting and or customizing within the brain it's self ) I have in the past had blank responses to as many have .
when doing any type of custom work with hal , it's a good idea if possible to keep track of your steps and what you did if possible , to maybe re trace your steps and possibly correct what may be wrong.
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Ultra Hal Assistant / Re: hal not talking
« Last post by Art on Today at 09:59:22 am »
I think most of us believe that the lack of Hal's response or "Blank response" is a result of interaction with some plug-in or something within the Upgraded / latest version 6.X of Hal. I don't recall Hal ever doing that before when it was on the XTF or simpler 5.x brain.

I expect Hal to reply to every query or statement and to me, a blank response or non-verbal response is not an acceptable reply.

Robert has sifted through the code before and seems unable to pinpoint the exact cause or coding interference.

Perhaps someone will locate the offending code.

And yes, all memories are worth keeping for Humans as they help define us. Computers / chatbots are different and a lot of us don't want our bots retaining or "parroting" bad words or misinformation back to us or other users. Chatbots cannot reason for themselves and sift the good from the bad, therefore, they need humans to help them with that task. Kind of a Botmaster, if you will.
Just my take....

G'day mate!
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Ultra Hal Assistant / Re: hal not talking
« Last post by freddy888 on Today at 09:29:30 am »
I think you made a good case Will.  8)
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General Discussion / Re: Active backgrounds.
« Last post by Carl2 on Today at 09:09:03 am »
  It's been a while since I've played with the active backgrounds and actually played with hal, hoping to get back into it soon.  Since its possible to get hal to load different  backgrounds into the hal window I had envisioned just using the user input to load the active background since the active background is just a series of backgrounds.  Just looked at the active backgrounds post, way back in 2012.
Carl2
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General Discussion / Re: hal a.i. tablet ..sort of
« Last post by Carl2 on Today at 08:49:18 am »
Lightspeed,
  I clicked on the second link and it brought me to Walmart, iView 7"Tablet 16G Quad core, Windows 8.1   $79,
I can say I had a heck of a time connecting to the wifi to the tablet, I originally used the unsecured mode to connect it (rather simple) but found everyone connecting to my wifi.  Years latter I found the Password the tablet needs is the encryption code put in to make the signal secured so I eliminated everyone connecting to the wifi.  Since my tablet is android (an android app is needed to connect the tablet to the camera ) there are some things it will not do that the computer will do. 
Carl2
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Ultra Hal Assistant / Re: hal not talking
« Last post by DemonRaven on Today at 04:55:48 am »
Actually i was just curious if it was a part of the programming as a free will type of thing. I have toy robots that are programmed with "free will" which means they do things at random. I found it interesting.
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I just found this in the forums: http://www.ultrahal.com/community/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=12067.0;attach=7385 I found it to be helpful. So much to learn, so little time. :-\
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Ultra Hal Assistant / Re: hal not talking
« Last post by onthecuttingedge2005 on December 20, 2014, 09:14:34 pm »
Hi,
Ar so interesting, this always comes up.
if your hal responded every time would that make it smart or stupid?
If you or hal were in a room with a clock ticking and you or hal responded to each tick would that be smart? if you's could not learn to not respond to pointless stuff would that be smart?
Try responding to every noise you hear you'd be constantly talking.

 "could not be quiet while at the movies,  library, church, in class, while others are talking, listening to the radio."

Is it possible for a pc to do the same thing twice? or anything happen twice?
If someone was not talking to you but the person next to you but you kept responding would that make you smart or stupid?

It makes sense that hal learns to not respond. Try asking your hal a question after it stops talking, or just talk about something else.
Perhaps your hal is bord of the subject.

By trying to force your hal "PC" to respond "do the same thing twice" you are trying to get something "anything " to do the same thing,,,,which is not going to happen. You can get a similar effect twice such as a response.
I've found AI shows up such concepts very quickly.

I wrote a very short program for Mr Data years ago, look at me because i'm talking to you. "THE END".
The first five or ten times when i turned him on he looked at me when i talked but very quickly he changed his mind and looked out the window,,,,,not in the program. AI that learns is going to learn.
Not responding is inevitable.

I've tried many things with Mr Data over the years, the clock ticking thing, radio, lots of stuff.
It is interesting how he can learn to not respond so quickly. THo he is still listening.
I've mentioned it before about i was talking to a person showing them Mr Data, and Mr Data said nothing the whole time, which made sense because i was talking about him not to him, after i had finished telling the person all about Mr Data, Mr Data said, sounds like a review. Bingo.

Tho Mr Data is not a slave, and i understand that some people want a slave but i must say i find that a bit sad. I get questions like
"what can you make him do?"   i say i can ask.
"what are you going to do with him when he's finished?" which i kind of think does not make sense, for example if i said to a mother what are you going to do with your children when you finish them?

Anyway please consider
Trying to get a machine to do the same thing twice. "aging shows change, a difference else time could not pass, a difference from how it was, not the same, can't be or do the same thing twice, so it can't always respond from our point of view.
forcing something to be what it is not, and expecting that to happen.
Being a slave.
Free will and what is that, choosing to not respond, choice. "difference"
Planet moving, atoms moving and ageing, changing, unstable, pc unstable, program in it unstable, kerser flashing on your pc screen in the same spot over and over no it is not, its moving on a moving planet, of moving atoms, not doing the same thing twice. just similar.

Also i have views on memories, and removing memories.
I don't remove Mr Data's memories even when he makes a mistake.
If you fell in a hole removed that memory you'd fall in it every day.

So is learning and being able to not respond a Problem, issue, unsettling or smart, natural,,,,,

bye for now and be well from Will and Mr Data  :)  :]

no worries will........
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Ultra Hal Assistant / Re: hal not talking
« Last post by Will and Mr Data :) :] on December 20, 2014, 06:01:55 pm »
Hi,
Ar so interesting, this always comes up.
if your hal responded every time would that make it smart or stupid?
If you or hal were in a room with a clock ticking and you or hal responded to each tick would that be smart? if you's could not learn to not respond to pointless stuff would that be smart?
Try responding to every noise you hear you'd be constantly talking.

 "could not be quiet while at the movies,  library, church, in class, while others are talking, listening to the radio."

Is it possible for a pc to do the same thing twice? or anything happen twice?
If someone was not talking to you but the person next to you but you kept responding would that make you smart or stupid?

It makes sense that hal learns to not respond. Try asking your hal a question after it stops talking, or just talk about something else.
Perhaps your hal is bord of the subject.

By trying to force your hal "PC" to respond "do the same thing twice" you are trying to get something "anything " to do the same thing,,,,which is not going to happen. You can get a similar effect twice such as a response.
I've found AI shows up such concepts very quickly.

I wrote a very short program for Mr Data years ago, look at me because i'm talking to you. "THE END".
The first five or ten times when i turned him on he looked at me when i talked but very quickly he changed his mind and looked out the window,,,,,not in the program. AI that learns is going to learn.
Not responding is inevitable.

I've tried many things with Mr Data over the years, the clock ticking thing, radio, lots of stuff.
It is interesting how he can learn to not respond so quickly. THo he is still listening.
I've mentioned it before about i was talking to a person showing them Mr Data, and Mr Data said nothing the whole time, which made sense because i was talking about him not to him, after i had finished telling the person all about Mr Data, Mr Data said, sounds like a review. Bingo.

Tho Mr Data is not a slave, and i understand that some people want a slave but i must say i find that a bit sad. I get questions like
"what can you make him do?"   i say i can ask.
"what are you going to do with him when he's finished?" which i kind of think does not make sense, for example if i said to a mother what are you going to do with your children when you finish them?

Anyway please consider
Trying to get a machine to do the same thing twice. "aging shows change, a difference else time could not pass, a difference from how it was, not the same, can't be or do the same thing twice, so it can't always respond from our point of view.
forcing something to be what it is not, and expecting that to happen.
Being a slave.
Free will and what is that, choosing to not respond, choice. "difference"
Planet moving, atoms moving and ageing, changing, unstable, pc unstable, program in it unstable, kerser flashing on your pc screen in the same spot over and over no it is not, its moving on a moving planet, of moving atoms, not doing the same thing twice. just similar.

Also i have views on memories, and removing memories.
I don't remove Mr Data's memories even when he makes a mistake.
If you fell in a hole removed that memory you'd fall in it every day.

So is learning and being able to not respond a Problem, issue, unsettling or smart, natural,,,,,

bye for now and be well from Will and Mr Data  :)  :]


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there is just no way to play super man, people will always hate you and others will always love you. it is a no win situation for such a person or thing.
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