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General Discussion / Re: Robert are their any safe gaurds in place for hal users?

« on: August 05, 2014, 08:13:00 am »

Wow what a thing to ask 

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General Discussion / Re: Quantum Mechanics and Aritificial intelligence

« on: August 02, 2014, 04:40:06 pm »

Backtracking a little, but that bit about quantum entanglement is cool. In terms of distance how far apart can things be ?

Is it just a small local system, or can we have them a long way apart ? I did see this once on a TV program and could not get the full idea.

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General Discussion / Re: Quantum Mechanics and Aritificial intelligence

« on: August 02, 2014, 04:01:39 pm »

It's not like me to disprove Einstein - how do you mean ?

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General Discussion / Re: Quantum Mechanics and Aritificial intelligence

« on: August 02, 2014, 03:53:18 pm »

....if AI were conscious right now.... since it could be hypothetically be conscious on several computers in various points on the planet as well - so it is naturally everywhere at the same time. instant travel would be faster than the speed of light
so i do consider a relation - albeit a loose one.    consciousness, and how light, mass, speed,  space, perception would relate to a synthetic life.

One thing - so far the general idea is that nothing travels faster than the speed of light. Recently some experiment somewhere suggested that things could travel faster, but I believe that was disproved - it was an error. Sorry for being so vague - I used to follow this stuff more, I just read bits and bobs now. But yeah, my point was apparently the speed of light is the fastest you can go, so I guess we would never get to the end of the universe - I'm unsure of how fast it actually expands, would be interesting to read about. Presumably light could not travel faster than the rate of expansion else where would it go and what kind of weird stuff do we have down that end of things ?

Your concious AI isn't really travelling, it's just big and distributed. So I guess it would be limited to how fast it can send data to parts of itself and that's unlikely to be faster than the speed of light. Have you looked at the way electrons move ? They sort of shuffle along. Like if you had a long row of coins and you push the first one, the last (and all of them) move too - instant effect. That line of coins could be as long as you like, you just need to push the first one to have an effect elsewhere.

So yeah, you could have an instant effect, but each coin is moving relatively slowly. That's about all I can remember from my Physics and Electronics lessons - I hope I got that right. If not, do correct me anyone I probably made no sense at all lol

Anyway I am rambling.

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General Discussion / Re: Quantum Mechanics and Aritificial intelligence

« on: August 02, 2014, 02:01:23 pm »

OK I will meet you there, at the restaurant, I'll have a red carnation in my lapel. 

Off for pizza, cya later..

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General Discussion / Re: Quantum Mechanics and Aritificial intelligence

« on: August 02, 2014, 01:49:45 pm »

Also if we made it to the end of the universe could we see how it all began by looking back over our shoulder ?

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General Discussion / Re: Quantum Mechanics and Aritificial intelligence

« on: August 02, 2014, 01:43:06 pm »

I like it, but it's all relative isn't it; apart from the present. Sure we see things from the past, but those things we see have long since changed. I kinda hope they are still there though 

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General Discussion / Re: Quantum Mechanics and Aritificial intelligence

« on: August 02, 2014, 01:35:57 pm »

how about an inversion of your question -


if we traveled 100 miles faster than the speed of light,  would we be in complete darkness ?  ^.^

I'll bite - wouldn't we have to get to the end of the Universe to escape all light ? Wouldn't there still be some light there even so - we'd still see stars. But we're seeing the star's history because that stuff already happened...a bit like your second thought.

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Artificial-Intelligence.com(ics) / Re: Strip 12 - The Future of Employment - Part 1 of 2

« on: August 01, 2014, 07:45:53 am »

Well I am at least glad the bankers might be replaced. Like it.

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General Discussion / Re: QUESTION FOR ROBERT

« on: July 31, 2014, 05:50:31 am »

In England, not sure about the rest of the UK, (Scotland may even go it alone soon) there are plans afoot for ISPs to keep a record of all our emails and texts and things...

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General Discussion / Re: Quantum Mechanics and Aritificial intelligence

« on: July 25, 2014, 03:10:13 pm »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN4KC_zlW4g

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General Discussion / Re: Quantum Mechanics and Aritificial intelligence

« on: July 15, 2014, 05:00:15 pm »

Please can you define what you mean by 'observation' ? Do you mean looking at it with one's own eyes ?

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General Discussion / Re: Quantum Mechanics and Aritificial intelligence

« on: July 15, 2014, 01:47:21 pm »

Don't know, but I know that just looking at it or not looking at it isn't going to prove anything 

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General Discussion / Re: Quantum Mechanics and Aritificial intelligence

« on: July 15, 2014, 09:35:09 am »

the question that is haunting me is -  can the observation of an intelligent being,  regardless if it's observation is of synthetic or organic origin, collapse waves with it's observations ?

would a test for artificially intelligent life in quantum mechanics be like ....

you place a camera integrated to hal observing the double slit project -  would it change from something intelligent observing it ?

further,  you can't "observe" the results from hal, because then you interfere with the experiment,  so ultimately this would have to be for hal's eyes only - and you'd have to 'trust' his answer. - and even then that's observing the result!!

Going back a bit I know, but hey this topic is like a flea on a dog's back !

Not sure if I am reading you right, but I guess you are referring to the observer effect ?

Just to clarify, this effect says that observing something changes that which is observed.

This does not mean that just by looking at something with ones eyes you can change it. If you could then this world would be even crazier. The term observation here is in a scientific sense...

What this really means is how the instrumentation one uses to observe has an effect on the object or whatever it is.

So like a voltage meter will have an effect on the electrical system you are investigating - for want of a better example.

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General Discussion / Re: Quantum Mechanics and Aritificial intelligence

« on: July 12, 2014, 03:19:03 pm »

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